Review: Shirts by Dan Senyurt
July 11th, 2007 at 11:18pm Ryan Darragh
It’s not every day you see something you’ve never seen before, but designer Dan Senyurt has come up with something new under the sun. His new collection of casual and dressy men’s shirts is great in its own right, featuring attractive designs and beautiful fabric textures. But Dan, frustrated by a problem he saw that seemed to have no solution, decided to solve it himself. More on that in a moment–first take a look at this Velvet Shirt, shown in Kirsch Red. The fabric texture is shiny, rich and smooth, with just a few drapes and folds to suggest the flow of cloth over skin. These shirts come in 13 colors: Empire Violet, Soda Blue, Chocolate, Petrol Blue, Kirsch Red, Coriander, Ironstone, Licorice, Coffeebean, Cobalt, Aubergine, Teal, and Bottle Green. They can be worn tucked or untucked, open or closed (shown here closed and tucked).
Dan is not alone in providing an underwear-layer shirt extension to allow the shirt to be worn tucked into low-rise pants. (I think I first encountered this on some shirts by Kaejo DaSilva of Renegade.) The problem he noticed and has solved is that of small, even tiny gaps at the meeting of the shirt and underwear layers. He felt that these gaps, although sometimes barely noticeable, spoiled the illusion of a single, seamless garment from top to bottom.
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His solution? An undershirt-layer add-on that renders these gaps invisible. I was intrigued but I admit that I was also skeptical. I’ll let the technique speak for itself–see the pictures just above for “before and after” images that show the Velvet Shirt in Kirsch Red worn both without and with the undershirt “correction” layer.
Note that the undershirt “correction” layer is not intended and cannot be worn as a stand-alone undershirt version of the whole shirt. The full shirt is included on the jacket layer (for untucked wear) and undershirt layer as well. Here I’m wearing the jacket-layer, untucked Velvet Shirt in Ironstone.
The Velvet Shirts are priced at L$95 for single shirts, L$185 for three-shirt packs in a single color. Note that single shirts do not include the undershirt “correction” layer.
Dan’s Short Sleeve Shirts come in eight colors: Lemon (shown), Tangerine, Sangria, Turquoise, Pistachio, Kiwi, Light Blue, and Blackcurrant. They can be worn tucked and tucked, open and closed (shown open and untucked). The colors are cheerful and the look is light and breezy, perfect for a warm summer day. These are available only in packs, priced at L$175 for all shirt variations in a single color. A demo of this style is available for L$1 in the shop, so you can try before you buy. I’ve heard recently from some readers who wish that they could try on clothing demos before making a purchase–maybe this is the start of a new trend! 
The Canvas Shirts can be worn tucked or untucked, open or closed. Here you see it closed and untucked. They’re available in an array of eight colors: Cranberry, Pearlgrain, Midnight Blue, Belladonna, Hempseed, Graphite, Coffeebean, and Caramel, which is pictured here. These priced at L$85 for single shirts, L$175 for three-shirt packs in a single color, or L$450 for a three-color, nine-shirt multipack. Note that single shirts do not include the undershirt “correction” layer. A demo of this style is available for L$1.
All styles are available at Shirts for Men by Dan Senyurt (Te Wharau 234, 77, 53).
Photographed on location in the toscana sim (toscana 105, 126, 33).
Disclosure: Seen in World: Yes | Review Copy: Yes | Friends List: No
Notes: On Ryan: FORM skin and 030b Jeans by Zabitan Assia (FORM). "Poynter" hair by Liam Oliver (Armidi). Rugged Shorts by Chloris Hathor (Indigo).
Entry Filed under: Casual,Dan Senyurt,Designer Reviews,Dressy,New Items,Shirts
14 Comments Add your own
1. Anarka Yoshiyuki | July 12th, 2007 at 6:15 am
Good and deserved review
Dan´ s has a very nice collection of shirts with great textures and dressing options most of them come in jacket, shirt and undershirt layer. :
2. Joshua Walsh | July 12th, 2007 at 2:19 pm
Zabitan Assia was the first to do the underwear shirt extension to be tucked into low-rise pants, and bravo for that.
3. Implode Jorda | July 12th, 2007 at 4:36 pm
Fantastic review, as always. Ever since I discovered this blog, I have to check it out every day. Ryan, with your reviews on clothing and style at SL, you have rebuild my interest in what this world can offer.
4. Ryan Darragh | July 12th, 2007 at 6:24 pm
Thanks for the feedback! I’m glad what we’re doing here is helpful.
5. Name Withheld #1 | July 12th, 2007 at 9:42 pm
Why do Sl clothing discussions seem to, at times, turn into Pioneer discussion? Believe it or not, people have been doing this since I can remember (Yes even the hiding the gaps with an undershirt/wear layer), apparently just designers you have not heard of. Many designers are very aware this is possible but choose not to do it because it has its cons : You have to wear all 3 top layers so no tattoos or additional garments can be worn with it.
Not everyone knows who ‘zabitan assia” is. He may have been the first you saw do it (By the way, the review mentions someone using undershirt to hide the gaps left by the jacket/shirt extension; not just a jacket shirt tuck combo) but it doesnt mean no one would of ever figured it out. Designers in general, RL and SL, are very creative and innovative people…. Take 2 designers who have no idea about eachother, stick them in a room with the gap problem, and they both would come up with the same solution eventually.
I apologize if anyone takes offense to this post, I just happen to disagree with the “So and so was first” comment and wanted to back up my disagreement.
6. Ben Vanguard | July 13th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
I dare to tell that when I discovered and showed dan Senyurt’s work on slmen.com several weeks ago, there were no underpant layer allowing to wear tucked shirts with low rise pants. I asked Dan for that, and I will never thank him enough to have brought such a full and perfect answer.
My point is that designers are mostly totally opened to customers needs. There is no offense to point product weakness or ask for better products, just the opposite.
7. Ryan Darragh | July 13th, 2007 at 3:54 pm
I suppose it’s human nature to be interested in who did something first, fastest, longest, or best–how else to explain the enduring popularity of the Guinness Book of World Records? Although I myself haven’t seen the undershirt “correction” layer idea used by any other designers, it’s certainly not my intention to diss others who are using it, or who may have tried it out and decided not to continue. My respect for the designers of SL and the creative work they do is immense. I hope that shows here.
Dan does mention in the info notecard that accompanies his shirts the potential conflict with undershirt-layer tattoos. I didn’t mention that in my review, but that’s my omission and not his. I guess we’ll always have to deal with this, at least until LL provides a “make-up and tattoo” l ayer (or set of layers) that underlies all clothing layers. Hmm, where is that suggestion box?…
8. Joshua Walsh | July 13th, 2007 at 10:56 pm
Oh Name Withheld, why don’t you have the balls I was accused of not having and post your name?
9. Name Withheld #1 | July 14th, 2007 at 2:58 am
You were accused of not having “balls.” ? I dont even understand why people use that term, as if balls have supernatural power. I did not accuse you of anything. I was just pointing out that just because you saw someone do this, does not mean they were first.
I am no longer posting my name, not because I am a coward, but because I do not want to associate my inworld presence in blogs any longer because of people like you who take offense and start fights with everyone who either a- Dislikes a product, b- disagrees with raves about a product or c- says anything slightly objectional and/or opinionated. My choice to remain anonymous should be respected, and your choice of being cliche and tell me I have “No balls,” will be left alone by me from this point on. Just understand that withholding a name is not always cowardly, infact, it can keep a situation from letting the bitterness go any further than it needs to.
Can I ask why you want to know my name? If someone posts something you deem as “rude” (Which btw, my initial post was not said in a rude manner, sorry you took it that way) what does it give to the situation to know my identity? As the person who has taken offense, just what will you do with my name?
For me, it does not gain me anything to post my name, whether I am posting a “Great shirt!” comment, or a “Im not really enjoying what the designer did here” comment. And its sad that people do seem to reject or accept the substance of comment based on what is typed in after “Name:_______”…. I think this is a truth that is hard to disagree with. This is my reason for posting anonymously.
10. Oscar Page | July 14th, 2007 at 10:58 am
It’s not really worth my time and effort to explain that anonymity is already achieved by the fact that we’re all hiding behind avatar names in an online game in the first place, but I will echo the quote in my profile.
“Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.” ~Oscar Wilde~
And really I think that discussions on here should be held more toward the actual fashion than what bugs you about what other people post. All it does is start one flaming post after another, and that’s really not the point of this entire blog. When I find the time I’ll roll over to see what Dan has, I shall to see his full collection.
11. Ryan Darragh | July 14th, 2007 at 12:22 pm
We don’t require registration in order to post comments, and honestly I’d prefer to keep it that way. I have no problem with anyone choosing to post anonymously (or to use a name that’s not his SL avatar’s, for that matter). As Oscar points out, some ways we’re all already anonymous, or at least undentified in RL
I do think that other readers are better served when the comments have something to do with the designs being reviewed. If anyone chooses to remain anonymous here, that’s fine by me, but please try to avoid using these comments sections as a forum for what should really be a private conversation.
12. Name Withheld #1 | July 14th, 2007 at 7:01 pm
Oscar, There is some anonymity, true, but that only keeps people from sending you threats in real life. People WILL take your avatar name and harrass you in your second life. Linden Lab has very poor customer service to stop this inworld harrassment for “personal” type dramas. Also, I do not need a mask to tell the truth. That is not the purpose of my going anonymous at all.
Ryan, That will be followed by me from this point on. Have you thought about writing up a “Rules for Posting” page? I am not a heavy poster but I`ll be sure to follow any guidelines noted there if I decide to post. I did not mean to start a discussion like this with my post.
13. Ryan Darragh | July 16th, 2007 at 12:31 pm
The idea of providing some “Guidelines for Posting” is one I’ve considered in the past and am thinking about more seriously now. I do think it’s a good idea, and I appreciate the suggestion coming from a reader and commenter, and not just my own head.
14. Miles Beck | July 17th, 2007 at 1:15 pm
I love Dan’s shirts and I’m happy to see them reviewed here. Dan is meticulous — the detail that first attracted me to his shirts is the natural look of the collar. I’ve never seen a better unbuttoned collar in SL, and it looks great when you wear a jacket over the tucked version of the shirt. As I’ve said to Dan, the best business-casual look in SL is one of his canvas or velvet tucked shirts and a good jacket. (The jackets from Blaze’s Ultimate Wool and Tweed suits are ideal for this.)
I’ve been a happy customer since before Dan started supplying the underwear-layer shirt extension. And after he added this feature, he sent free updates for my old shirts. I highly recommend these!
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